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VPIP = Voluntary Put Money In Pot

As the title says, what VPIP would you consider to be solid percentage/player?

I think if players play 20% or less hands in tournaments, they're usually pretty solid. Typically, the less hands you play the stronger hands you end up playing.
 
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VPIP = Voluntary Put Money In Pot

As the title says, what VPIP would you consider to be solid percentage/player?

I think if players play 20% or less hands in tournaments, they're usually pretty solid. Typically, the less hands you play the stronger hands you end up playing.

VPIP is a more complicated subject than most people think you can't just say you should play a certain percentage of hands or less. Every position has its own v pip that is profitable, your image at the table also will determine what vpip is best for you.
 
VPIP is a more complicated subject than most people think you can't just say you should play a certain percentage of hands or less. Every position has its own v pip that is profitable, your image at the table also will determine what vpip is best for you.
I sort of agree if you play cash games. However, in tournaments I think tighter players usually last longer.
 
I think a VPIP of around 20% or even lower is in order. I have learned that in poker tournaments, everything should be deployed just to survive. When one plays fewer hands, it to a large extent eliminates the risk of entering marginal spots. It is all about patience.
 
You’re on point. Around 20% VPIP is solid for tourneys. Playing fewer hands usually means you’re sticking to stronger spots and staying disciplined. Some players push a bit higher in certain structures, like 22–25%, but generally, tighter ranges give you better control and fewer tricky situations. It’s all about quality over quantity when you’re grinding tournaments.
 
You’re on point. Around 20% VPIP is solid for tourneys. Playing fewer hands usually means you’re sticking to stronger spots and staying disciplined. Some players push a bit higher in certain structures, like 22–25%, but generally, tighter ranges give you better control and fewer tricky situations. It’s all about quality over quantity when you’re grinding tournaments.
In turbos or hyper-turbos, I think players should have a slightly higher VPIP compared to slower structures. Around 22–25% seems like a good range.
 
VPIP = Voluntary Put Money In Pot

As the title says, what VPIP would you consider to be solid percentage/player?

I think if players play 20% or less hands in tournaments, they're usually pretty solid. Typically, the less hands you play the stronger hands you end up playing.
I agree that players with 20% VPIP or less will often have stronger starting ranges, but in tournaments I don't think low VPIP automatically means better or more profitable play.

A loose-aggressive maniac can be very dangerous in the right tournament situation. Someone playing 40%+ VPIP can put enormous pressure on the table, especially when they have position. On the button, for example, a very aggressive player may raise a huge percentage of hands when the blinds are tight or trying to survive.

Sometimes that aggression can even include 3-betting hands like 72o. Obviously, you can't just play every hand like that and expect to win — the point is that a LAG player is constantly putting opponents in difficult decisions and forcing them to defend their blinds and stacks.

The advantage of the loose-aggressive style in tournaments is pressure. You can accumulate chips without waiting for premium hands, attack players who are trying to ladder up, steal blinds and antes frequently, and make opponents uncomfortable enough that they start making mistakes.

A tight player may have a stronger average hand when they enter a pot, but a good LAG can often win many pots without showing down a hand.

So I would say VPIP tells you something about a player's style, but not necessarily how dangerous or profitable that player is. A 15% player can be predictable, while a skilled 40%+ LAG can be one of the toughest players at the table.
 
The advantage of the loose-aggressive style in tournaments is pressure. You can accumulate chips without waiting for premium hands, attack players who are trying to ladder up, steal blinds and antes frequently, and make opponents uncomfortable enough that they start making mistakes.

A tight player may have a stronger average hand when they enter a pot, but a good LAG can often win many pots without showing down a hand.
I agree with this, and I also tend to apply a little more pressure with ace-rag type hands against overly tight players.
 

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